tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post3104557169134679361..comments2023-12-26T18:15:16.061-06:00Comments on DOG SHOW POOP: TOP THISBilly Wheelerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10638169474272913281noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-57272585215454478732010-06-08T14:42:52.196-05:002010-06-08T14:42:52.196-05:00As a relative new-comer to the sport of pure-bred ...As a relative new-comer to the sport of pure-bred dogs, I am shocked that this could be allowed to happen. I don't know if it defies rules or not, but it defies common sense at the very least. What a "sport". Time for a huge clean-up in the judging ranks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-23051013837263776722010-06-01T19:06:09.774-05:002010-06-01T19:06:09.774-05:00Im not surprised at all. If you dont know that Mr...Im not surprised at all. If you dont know that Mrs Stacey has the reputation of being 'corrupt' then youve chosen to look the other way.<br />And YES the handler shouldve known better than to even enter a show where the breeder of her dog was judging. Its tacky and wrong on many different levels!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-2719936214495424452010-06-01T13:30:39.345-05:002010-06-01T13:30:39.345-05:00OK, I am closing comments on this post. While the...OK, I am closing comments on this post. While there may be legitimate issues to discuss in this matter, I do not feel comfortable hosting what could turn into a lynch mob.Billy Wheelerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10638169474272913281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-88076233661770729602010-06-01T12:57:41.366-05:002010-06-01T12:57:41.366-05:00Mrs. Stacey's husband should be ashamed to try...Mrs. Stacey's husband should be ashamed to try to fix this very sad situation.<br />The dog should never be entered. Period .<br />I agree the dog had to pass the Breed Judge and the group judge to get to Mrs. Stacey.<br />And Mr. Stacey just a question: Did you have any contact with those judges prior the Monday show?<br />If it was the National weekend, why did you and your wife accepted assignments for that weekend?<br />When Mrs. Stacey's did the breed at Westminster Kennel Club how many Tamarim Affens where entered? And who won BOB, BOS and both awards?<br />Just a sad, huge and intensional mistake.<br />A disgrace for the sport.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-32953607152900984042010-06-01T12:47:45.733-05:002010-06-01T12:47:45.733-05:00What about the fact that she owns the dogs sperm r...What about the fact that she owns the dogs sperm rights???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-78817652227655931042010-06-01T12:46:43.357-05:002010-06-01T12:46:43.357-05:00Of course Terry Stacy should defend his wife. And...Of course Terry Stacy should defend his wife. And yes, it's technically correct that the dog was not entered "under" her, which would have been a clear rules violation. So she was within the letter of the law. But can he not see how bad this looks? And as to the posts being anonymous, well, duh! Of course they are! In such a subjective sport, with a judge who doesn't seem to play fair, who wants to put their neck on the chopping block?<br />As to someone "slandering" the AKC rep: I agree they shouldn't have made a blanket statement about what kind of person she is. But she was at the show, had to know this horrible conflict was coming up. Would it have been out of bounds to suggest to someone that they not go through with this? I really don't know, just asking.<br />Anonymous, because of fear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-5683280540247944592010-06-01T12:18:33.305-05:002010-06-01T12:18:33.305-05:00Directly from the Tamarin Affen website.
http://ww...Directly from the Tamarin Affen website.<br />http://www.tamarinaffenpinschers.com/newstars.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-61071861923473645052010-06-01T12:08:48.526-05:002010-06-01T12:08:48.526-05:00To Terry Stacy..Don't try to defend the indefe...To Terry Stacy..Don't try to defend the indefensible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-16572059452996270082010-06-01T11:59:21.147-05:002010-06-01T11:59:21.147-05:00I am amazed that this judge does not get it. When ...I am amazed that this judge does not get it. When you are a judge/breeder/owner, you have to make sacrifices that breeder/owners do not have to make. Either you turn down judging assignments or your dogs don't show at certain shows. The fact that this even happened cast a dark shadow over dog shows. The fact that this judge doesn't get it, casts a dark shadow over the judges that would do this. <br /><br />Mike DoleskiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-8628767433915077962010-06-01T11:31:59.487-05:002010-06-01T11:31:59.487-05:00hmmm, so maybe no breeders should ever become judg...hmmm, so maybe no breeders should ever become judges?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-64935204747487967592010-06-01T11:10:03.182-05:002010-06-01T11:10:03.182-05:00PEOPLE WHO HAVE A FINGER TO POINT HAVE THREE POINT...PEOPLE WHO HAVE A FINGER TO POINT HAVE THREE POINTING RIGHT BACK AT THEM.SEACRESThttp://www.seacrestdachshunds.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-36931519688238256442010-06-01T11:08:00.490-05:002010-06-01T11:08:00.490-05:00I congratulate Terry Stacy for defending his wife....I congratulate Terry Stacy for defending his wife. Thats what any honorable man should do. I can't accept that there was "any unusual situation" that would make this acceptable though. It is plain and simply unethical and I would hope he would make a better judgement for himself if he was put in the same situation. It is one huge sour note for "our sport". Thanks to Billy Wheeler for allowing our freedom of speech. Thats what this country is all about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-7769215343750465062010-06-01T11:08:00.489-05:002010-06-01T11:08:00.489-05:00AKC is at fault also. It's not hard to impleme...AKC is at fault also. It's not hard to implement a clear cut rule prohibiting judges from judging, at any LEVEL, dogs they have bred, own, or have owned at any time. Since some judges don't feel the Code of Sportsmanship applies to them, it long overdue for the AKC to step up and make an effort to make dog shows a credible "sport".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-30188809838886907182010-06-01T10:37:15.424-05:002010-06-01T10:37:15.424-05:00I think a number of posters correctly identified a...I think a number of posters correctly identified a key element to the emotion and length/# of responses: the appearance of impropriety of judging your own breeding and what was just recently in your kennel. I have a hard time believing that a breeder of this 'success' and self-described 'toy expert' wouldn't recognize their own breeding, nor would not 'know' who is handling. This dog has been campaigned out west at least to this point-and to show up on the other side of the country in this instance - again a question of impropriety. The rules may 'allow' this to happen, but is this how we want OUR sport to evolve? Maybe this instance is a 'shame on all of us' for not voicing our concerns or outrage about this behavior beyond an anonymous message board....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-84031176068270811382010-06-01T10:14:10.592-05:002010-06-01T10:14:10.592-05:00This reminds me of a very large and prestigious sh...This reminds me of a very large and prestigious show a few years back, the only difference was there were only 6 in the best in show lineup. The Giant Schnauzer, Spirit, was brought into the BIS ring under Mr Jeffery Pepper, who had recently hired the McFaddens to show some of his dogs. Spirit was allowed to enter the ring, and stack up, but the handler excused herself for a conflict of interest before her examination.<br />Do you think anyone ringside knew that she had shown for the judge? Maybe a few did, but she still chose not to put the judge in that sort of a position, with the #1 dog who was in a TIGHT race. It was very honorable and while I knew it was hard for Taffe to watch best without her dog it, I admire that she make the correct decision to earn her wins honestly. <br />It is bad form what happened here, especially considering that the Stacys are listed as the breeders, finished the dog therefore were more involved than a lot of breeders who sell a puppy are, and are pimping the dog on their website. One of them, either the judge or the handler, should have had the ethics to do as Taffe did and excuse themselves from the ring. Best In Show can go on without a Toy breed. <br />It is sad that this is the only way some people feel they can get their wins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-14436905879315520202010-06-01T10:09:55.364-05:002010-06-01T10:09:55.364-05:00I am very disappointed that anonymous comments are...I am very disappointed that anonymous comments are being printed on your blog. Many of these are stating facts that just are not true.<br /><br /><br />A dog cannot be entered for BIS. In the instance of these complaints it was the weekend of the National Specialty. All of the top winning Affens in the country were present in the breed. It took two different judges to get this dog to BIS in very good competition. I feel certain this dog would not be entered at a normal show where Mrs Stacy was on the panel. <br /><br />Many of these anonymous comments are ugly and untrue and some are even slandering the AKC rep and myself. <br /><br />This is an unusual situation and I fully understand it creats talk. Maybe it is time to have the rules revised. I think the job Mrs Stacy had in this instance was to select the dog she felt came closest to its breed standard. The best comment was dammed if she did and dammed if she didn't.<br /><br />Please consider keeping comments to facts and not these ugly misinformed statements and personal remarks for the trash.<br /><br />Terry StacyTerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13155681113700472561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-29808376371843688402010-06-01T09:52:46.058-05:002010-06-01T09:52:46.058-05:00So disappointed in the judge, handler and owner si...So disappointed in the judge, handler and owner since it appears not one of them stepped up to do the right thing in a situation that was an obvious conflict of interest. From the AKC rules for dog show judges “The responsibility for entering dogs that … create a conflict of interest is with the exhibitor.” In the same booklet under Ethics – Honesty and Common Sense: “The key is to avoid all situations that are likely to give the impression of impropriety. You must do everything possible to keep your reputation above reproach.” Many posters already pointed out the complete disregard for the AKC’s Code of Sportsmanship which should have also helped guide all parties involved in this situation to make the right decision. Sigh…Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-88558744413066096802010-06-01T09:25:21.804-05:002010-06-01T09:25:21.804-05:00This a disgrace. But some one wrote earlier how P...This a disgrace. But some one wrote earlier how Peter excused Ernesto's Airedale and the same thing should have been done in this case. Am I the only one who feels it is wrong for the Tamarin Affens or the dogs in Greenfield kennels to even be shown at shows where the Stacys or Peter Green or Beth Sweigart are on the panel? They may not be judging them but they are having breakfast lunch and dinner with the judges that are! Talk about ethics! They can also bad mouth their competition and manipulate who they want to win. It's no news that these 2 camps are at war. Hopefully no good judges will listen without knowing their objective. What is happening to our sport?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-2861118005764142792010-06-01T09:15:12.943-05:002010-06-01T09:15:12.943-05:00While I want to maintain as free & open commun...While I want to maintain as free & open communication as possible, I remind all that we have a “No Haters” policy here at Dog Show Poop. Please confine your comments to “constructive” observations. Personal attacks on the judge, handle, & especially the AKC rep are not constructive. Feel free to criticize actions, but wholesale character assassination is not going to be tolerated. I can appreciate the reticent of some anonymous commentors to include their names, but I will disable all comments if we can’t keep the conversation from getting out of hand.Billy Wheelerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10638169474272913281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-90953069451752062912010-06-01T09:04:41.949-05:002010-06-01T09:04:41.949-05:00As is mentioned above you have a picture of Mrs. S...As is mentioned above you have a picture of Mrs. Stacy showing the dog, and then a picture of Tiffany showing the dog next to it. <br /><br />http://www.tamarinaffenpinschers.com/newstars.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-12145846263102863622010-06-01T09:02:58.705-05:002010-06-01T09:02:58.705-05:00I watched Terry Stacy judge in Louisville a few ye...I watched Terry Stacy judge in Louisville a few years ago, his obvious lack of knowledge of what is correct type for MANY breeds is missing, and as for Jackie, well, she likes to be SOMEBODY!!!!!!!!!!! and expects to be treated like a queen. I would suggest that every person that reads this website suggest to their local kennel clubs to DROP the Stacys as even an option for their shows, and as another person wrote, my handler will never show to either of them again., which is what I did a few years ago, I have not entereed under them for close to two years now and still manage to get plenty of good wins and even some BISs with either my handler showing for me or myself showing my dogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-2473747376986052032010-06-01T08:32:01.471-05:002010-06-01T08:32:01.471-05:00Now I'm even more APPALLED. There is a photo o...Now I'm even more APPALLED. There is a photo of Mrs. Stacy showing Tamarin Top Banana on her website. Does it get any worse than this????? WOW, unethical at its finest. I blame Mrs. Stacy for this. She is the one with the POWER to have done the right thing and excuse this exhibit from the BIS lineup. I guess this is another good example of her ethics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-38806677651793040182010-06-01T06:08:50.123-05:002010-06-01T06:08:50.123-05:00SHAME, SHAME,SHAME.Maybe this is the reason for th...SHAME, SHAME,SHAME.Maybe this is the reason for the decline in our entries these days, when we are exposed to a judge who does this kind of thing. You can NOT enter under that judge, but then you have to try and avoid her at group and best in show levels as well.That can ruin 3 days. I guess those clubs will lose out when all exhibitors want is a fair shake.......DEPRESSINGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-6909652889491920332010-06-01T05:45:43.230-05:002010-06-01T05:45:43.230-05:00Tiffany Skinner is a wonderful handler with a very...Tiffany Skinner is a wonderful handler with a very good dog. She is not to blame for this. She was doing her job. She could show a dog of mine any day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-252655140818743030.post-21464703192327028512010-06-01T03:02:20.480-05:002010-06-01T03:02:20.480-05:00This can't possibly be true. The dog is in the...This can't possibly be true. The dog is in their Upcoming Stars section of their web site. It HAS to be a mistake. No one is that stupid (one could hope).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com